A little discussion on the Toaq Discord server sparked some interesting thoughts that I’d like to share here. @magnap was reading @shamu’s nasin toki document hosted on GitHub and had some questions about polysemy in toki pona, which led to this post.
There is a section dedicated to transitive predicates in toki pona in nasin toki that reads:
Sometimes, we come across strange constructions in toki pona.
Things likemi tomo e waso
may look confusing at first, but there are simple strategies to interpret this.When we use the construction
X li Y e Z
we usually mean one of two things, depending on context:
- The subject causes the object be Y, “X causes Z to be Y.”.
In terms of toki pona, we can restructure this toX li pali e ni: Z li Y
.
mi pona e tomo
- e.g. “We cause the room to be good.”, or “I repair the house.”
mi tomo e waso
- e.g. “We turn the bird into a house.” (Maybe it is a very big bird and we can live in its plumage!)- The subject applies Y to the object, “X applies Y to Z.”.
mi luka e soweli len
- e.g. “I pet the hidden dog.”, or “I hit the plush toy.”
mi tomo e waso
- e.g. “I apply the house to a bird, i.e. I put the bird into the house”
sina telo e sina
- e.g. “You wash yourselves.”, or “You spill water on yourself.”
I think this is well written as to patterns of transitivity in toki pona, but it leaves a question unanswered: interpretation of transitive moku when used under this nasin. From @magnap:
under this analysis,
mi0 moku e soweli0
[1] could be:
mi0 moku2 e soweli0
=> “I eat the animal”mi0 moku1 e soweli0
=> "I cause:soweli0 moku1
=> “I cause: the animal eats” => “I feed the animal”mi0 moku0 e soweli0
=> "I cause:soweli0 moku0
=> “I cause: the animal is food” => “I cook the animal”mi0 moku0 e soweli0
=> “I applymoku0
tosoweli0
” => “I apply food to the animal” => “I feed the animal” (butmi0 moku0 e sike0
could be coating a ball in peanut butter for your dog to play with)
Personally, I think this is a fair analysis of moku, and makes me desire more from the semantic space of moku.
This might be hard to wrap your head around if you’re just a toki pona speaker, but @magnap is coming from an outside perspective and interpreted it in that outside perspective.
I (or @magnap as well) can add more to this if there’s questions about this context :3
these numbers denote the “form” of the word, where with respect to moku,
0
is “to be food”,1
is “to cause to be food”, and2
is “to eat”, in English terms ↩︎